Thanks Sue and Becky - I'll give Leigh-on-Sea a wide birth! That's good
about learning Beadnell though and horror stories from dancing it out!
R-a xx
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Becky Such <rebeccasuch(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Yes we learnt Beadnell!
And then did it very badly (Ken nearly cried) at Leigh on Sea, as we
changed up about 4 times *Sob*
And yes, a procession in between a pipe band and a gang of border morris
men that used metal pipes instead of sticks. It's also where we looked on
in horror at the somewhat amateur belly dances as we decided to take
shelter in a pub.
Never been overly bothered about going back to Leigh on Sea, I wonder why??
Becky x
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*From:* TowerRavensTeam <towerravensteam-bounces(a)lists.postman.org.uk> on
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*Sent:* 01 June 2018 08:14
*To:* Rachel Sheridan
*Cc:* Tower Ravens
*Subject:* Re: [Tower Ravens] Scrapbook
Very impressed with all these recollections, most of which are just a blur
in my falling memory. One extra dance we learned was a trad dance, with
some embarrassment because it was a Thrales dance and we didn't want to
copy them blatantly. But it was the easiest in the short time available.
Was it Beadnell? We took it to Leigh-on-Sea and possibly Tenterden.
Oh yes - anyone remember that procession at Leigh-on-Sea when we followed
one or more highland pipers? Poor Nicky didn't stand a chance of being
heard and we hadn't spent much time practising a processional so it was a
bit underwhelming, to say the least.
S x
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On 30 May 2018, at 22:44, Rachel Sheridan <rachel.sheridan(a)cantab.net>
wrote:
I say that the first dance was unnamed simply because it existed before we
decided to name our dances after tube lines. It was created almost
immediately, and was the dance used for our first few crawls and
danceouts. It was our only dance until Jubilee was written in January
2013, so we probably just referred to it as "the dance"! Personally I
would consider it to be a "proper" dance, since it was danced out.
The first dance was created almost immediately (spring 2012). The AGM
minutes for November 2012 say "we have decided that we want to write
ourselves a second dance. We would like to make it more complicated than
and as separate as we can from our current one. Everyone can input into the
second dance with figures that they like. Until this second dance is
written, we can practice variations on figures for the first dance, and
figures that we like for the second dance." This second dance was what
would later be named Jubilee, and was the dance we took to DERT in 2013.
I'm starting to go through the email archives now (this is quite fun!).
Jubilee was first written in January 2013, and went to DERT two months
later. There are a couple of videos of us learning it (one in practice, one
on crawl - these are fairly embarrassing to watch!). The first mention of
the tube line titles is in April 2013, when Jubilee is officially named as
such. The impression I have at this point going by the emails is that we
are working on teaching everyone Jubilee and the first dance has fallen by
the wayside.
Later that summer, we start to learn a new dance, aimed at being easier
than Jubilee ("the DERT dance"), and judging by the email listing the
figures, I think this is the Circle dance, though it's not called by name. The
minutes in November 2013 say the dances are "named after tube lines, have
a good dance and a learner dance. Let's call dances by their tube names.
Jubilee is not-finished-dert dance. People seem to not want a third dance
before dert. Happy to work on current dances. Could do dance well, add
tumble." The learner dance here is the Circle dance. We visited Thrales
December 2013 to run a tumbling workshop. There's another video of us
dancing Jubilee in practice in January 2014 - with added tumble!
By the EGM in March 2014, the Circle dance has died. The minutes say "We
should definitely write a second dance! It would be really good to get one
with more complex moves that will be more dramatic to an audience. We must
be careful not to make it such hard work we tire ourselves out or lose any
of our precision though! Concern regarding the Jubilee dance being our
“easy” dance, but we think that’ll probably be OK. It’d be good to make
the new dance more general facing to be able to take it out this summer.
Salvage bits of the original Circle dance? Jumps would be good!
Descriptor: “A flashy complex circle-ish dance that we would be able to
take to DERT” (if we wanted)."
Piccadilly was created summer and autumn 2014. There's a video of people
walking through the first half of it in September 2014, having learnt it.
It looks like Piccadilly had its first dance out sometime in autumn 2014,
and it was danced out at Mabel Day 2014. (This is during my break from
Ravens, so I'm not sure on the details - can anyone remember?) Westerhope
was also first decided upon as the trad dance to learn autumn 2014. Both
Westerhope and Piccadilly had their first DERT performances in 2015. But
I'm getting tired and I want to go to bed, so I'm going to stop digging
through the archives for detailed dates now. More info on request. :)
In terms of Thrales, I'm too tired to word my thoughts properly now - I'll
send a follow up email in the morning.
Hope this all makes sense.
Rachel
On Wed, 30 May 2018, 19:16 Rachel Anne Smith, <
smith.rachelanne(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Ooh I'm learning! Circle dance - intriguing! This is all great stuff. But
I probably won't focus on an unnamed dance - would the team consider
Jubilee to be our first 'proper' dance?
And it's fair to say that help from Thrales was instrumental to getting TR
off the ground? (sorry for the bird pun) I know the first crawl was joint
with them.
(oh and in the future when I'm getting the archive together - Im gonna
need to document all you team knowledge Rachel!)
Thanks,
R-a xx
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 6:54 PM, Rachel Sheridan <
rachel.sheridan(a)cantab.net> wrote:
I don't know what happened to the feather boas. They're probably kicking
around in someone's cupboard...
Thrales taught us figures, but we've written all our own dances (except
for Westerhope, obviously!). Jubilee wasn't actually our first dance -
before that there was an even simpler beginners dance that was never named.
And between Jubilee and Piccadilly was the Circle dance, which only lasted
a short while.
There was a reasonable amount of experience at the beginning - several
people had come from university sides, or done workshops in the past. But
we also had people who'd stewarded at DERT and never done any rapper before
at all.
Rachel
On Wed, 30 May 2018, 16:00 Rachel Anne Smith, <
smith.rachelanne(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Thanks Rachel and Hannorah - these are great! Love the first DERT photo!
Any memories/stories from that first DERT? It definitely helps to have
accompanying dates and locations because I was thinking about doing a
timeline of important dates, maybe.
And that first crawl looked like a lot of fun! Why did we give up on
feather boas?!
Did Thrales help teach/make up Jubilee? Or was there enough expertise in
the set at the beginning?
R-a xx
On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Rachel Sheridan <
rachel.sheridan(a)cantab.net> wrote:
Here are the photos off Facebook of our first ever crawl. First crawl was
joint with Thrales on 12th October 2012, in Clerkenwell. As Hannorah says,
first solo crawl was that December. Photos attributed to Nic Chrisp, for
those of you who remember her. I love how in these photos you can see we
hadn't made sashes yet and just had bits of net. Proper sashes by DERT
2013, though, as per Hannorah's photo.
I've also attached the poster we used to advertise before the team even
began! This poster was up at DERT at C# in March 2012, along with matching
flyers. We had a pub meeting to talk about plans on 2nd April, and our
first dancing practice was a workshop from Thrales on 16th April. We didn't
become Tower Ravens until May 2012.
Rachel
On Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:54 Hannorah Lee, <hannorah.lee(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
Here’s a couple from early days:
- Whitby 2013 (our first unofficial festival: a couple of pub dances &
Aisha’s 19th Birthday!)
- Our first official festival, Tenterden 2013
- Cover of Folk London 2014
- Our first DERT, Burton, 2013
- First solo crawl in Islington, Dec 2012
I’ve got more, but no point me duplicating ones someone else is gonna
send. But let me know if you want them.
Hx
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On 29 May 2018, at 14:49, Rachel Anne Smith via TowerRavensTeam <
towerravensteam(a)lists.postman.org.uk> wrote:
Thanks Rachel - I'll take a look too. Why didn't I think of facebook?
Duh!! x
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Rachel Anne Smith <
smith.rachelanne(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
No problem, Ffion - thanks! I just thought I'd get started early to make
sure everyone who wants to contribute gets a chance.
Can't wait to get a look at the first dance out! x
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Ffion Mair <ffion_coch(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
There's definitely a photo from our first dance out. We're on the square
in Clerkenwell and Simon Vaughan is wearing a blue feather boa. There are
also photos of making skirts in that place under the arches. I probably
have lots of useful photos on my hard drive but I'm away until Sunday. Is
it ok to send you them then? X
On 29 May 2018 1:37 pm, Rachel Sheridan <rachel.sheridan(a)cantab.net>
wrote:
There are early photos of the first crawl somewhere on Facebook, I
remember finding them before. I'll have a look when I have a moment.
Rachel
On Tue, 29 May 2018, 13:31 Becky Such, <rebeccasuch(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
It's worth perusing facebook which has the first DERT we attended and when
we got new swords (2013)
I've just tried searching through Thrales' photos but can't see any of us
from the first crawl, but I'll ask Vaughan as he tommied for us and does
love a photo.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/thrales/photos/?tab=album&album_
id=10151772149246701 is an album where they taught us how to tumble if
that is of any use?
Also, I'm investigating the biodegradable body glitter for Sidmouth *woop*
Becky xx
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behalf of Rachel Anne Smith via TowerRavensTeam <
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*Sent:* 29 May 2018 11:33
*To:* Tower Ravens
*Subject:* [Tower Ravens] Scrapbook
Hi everyone,
I've been tasked with creating a scrapbook for Sidmouth. (Will it have a
quilted front cover, you ask? Probably!)
There are some photos in the google drive but not that many, and they only
go as far back as 2014. If anyone has any favourite photos (and
accompanying stories/anecdotes?!) that they want to be included please
email them to me (max 5 so as not to get out of hand).
And founding/early members - Jo, Rachel, Ffion, Sue I'm looking at you -
Do you have the very first photo? I think it would be lovely to include
that if we could. (Or one from the first dance out)
Thanks for your input!
R-a xx
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